saw some house republicans particularly amidst the harder line tea party faction were even driving at defense spending to push it down or to restrain it. >> well, they are resisting the calls from their senate counterparts, republicans, who say we need to roll back the sequester cuts, especially as they relate to defense. john mccain is trying to make that case and is trying to work with john mccain and a senate of republican factions breaking from the leadership. that's not happened in the house and we'll see if they can make that happen in the fall. >> you've covered washington tore so many years. have you ever seen the approval rating for congress as low as it is now or government as paralyzed as it seems to be on such important key issues? >> seen a lot of government paralysis, but the 12% approval, 83 disapproval for congress is the lowest in the quarter century history of the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, and it's not good news for anybody really because democrats hold the senate, republicans hold the house. it's kind of a pox on all your houses. >> and nobody likes either of them at